View Full Version : Arrest made in JonBenet Ramsey murder case
LightHeart
08-16-2006, 05:34 PM
link:
http://www.9news.com/acm_news.aspx?OSGNAME=KUSA&IKOBJECTID=189d522a-0abe-421a-00f3-dded5288de58&TEMPLATEID=0c76dce6-ac1f-02d8-0047-c589c01ca7bf
This is still a breaking story. But it sounds like the scum will finally pay for taking a beautiful angel.
LightHeart
08-16-2006, 05:53 PM
MSNBC has a story up now:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14379566/
JUst heard on my local news the man is a 41 year old second grade teacher.:eek:
NicoMoon
08-16-2006, 07:48 PM
It's a tough one, isn't it, LightHeart? On one hand, it's a relief to think that this case might finally be resolved, on the other now we have to live through becoming aware of yet another psychopath child destroyer.
The latest news: "Federal officials, speaking on condition of anonymity, said the man was already being held in Bangkok on unrelated sex charges."
Here we go again. Why is this guy out on the streets? When are the judges going to figure out that these perpetrators do not get cured, they don't even want to be cured, in fact, they truly believe they are entitled to do whatever they feel like?
Or more to the point, when are those who know and associate with these people going to wake up and face the facts and learn to do the right thing?
These perps are brought to us by all those who deny, justify, avoid and enable sick, sick, sick people.
Someone knew what this guy was about, I guarantee it. It drives me nuts!
LightHeart
08-16-2006, 11:13 PM
It's a tough one, isn't it, LightHeart? On one hand, it's a relief to think that this case might finally be resolved, on the other now we have to live through becoming aware of yet another psychopath child destroyer.
The latest news: "Federal officials, speaking on condition of anonymity, said the man was already being held in Bangkok on unrelated sex charges."
Here we go again. Why is this guy out on the streets? When are the judges going to figure out that these perpetrators do not get cured, they don't even want to be cured, in fact, they truly believe they are entitled to do whatever they feel like?
Or more to the point, when are those who know and associate with these people going to wake up and face the facts and learn to do the right thing?
These perps are brought to us by all those who deny, justify, avoid and enable sick, sick, sick people.
Someone knew what this guy was about, I guarantee it. It drives me nuts!
It drives me nuts too Nico, I heard on one channel tonight that Patsy knew him, and even gave his name as a suspect at one time.
I never thought for a minute that she nor John had anything to do with it. I watch body language, have for years, All I can say is they were put though hell and now by the grace of God everyone will know the truth.
katharina
08-17-2006, 08:42 AM
It's so good to have finally caught up with this guy. It presents a
lot of questions though, doesn't it? Starting with why was he in
their home on Christmas of that year? (no forced entry if I recall)
and if he wasn't there invited, how did he know about that room
in the basement anyhow? I guess that will all be coming out
eventually.
NicoMoon
08-17-2006, 10:42 AM
It drives me nuts too Nico, I heard on one channel tonight that Patsy knew him, and even gave his name as a suspect at one time.
I never thought for a minute that she nor John had anything to do with it. I watch body language, have for years, All I can say is they were put though hell and now by the grace of God everyone will know the truth.
While I share your relief on behalf of the Ramsays, LH, I'm not sure that I can agree that the parents had nothing to do with JonBenet's death. I can't help but think that they were extremely frivolous in vamping this little girl up and trotting her out in public like that. I don't think anyone could argue that this was an exceptionally bizarre image the Ramsay's created for their tiny little daughter.
This is not to say that I think they deserve one split second of the agony they surely have suffered, and I grieve for all they've gone through. No matter how tempting the bait, a perp is still a perp, and fully responsible for their devastating actions.
I sincerely do hope though, that JonBenet's case might serve as a warning to other parents who might feel inclined to similarly objectify their little girls. If there's anyone left on this planet who doesn't know of the presence of unfathomably sick child predators, or understand their pathology, I hope this case serves to enlighten them.
Now to await the unveiling of some kind of evidence that this is the perpetrator, because so far the news is so confusing that it's really hard to tell. The only thing that's currently clear to me is that this "man" is a very sick individual who is psychotically obsessed with JonBenet.
Some who have closely followed the case are expressing concerns that this might be a case of false confession by a nutter.
I sincerely hope that they do have some physical evidence to tie this guy to the crime. I'm hearing a lot of conflicting information, but I'm sure the facts will evolve.
Uh oh, Karr's ex-wife was just quoted as saying that she was with him in Alabama over Christmas the year JonBenet was murdered....the plot thickens!
NicoMoon
08-17-2006, 10:48 AM
It's so good to have finally caught up with this guy. It presents a
lot of questions though, doesn't it? Starting with why was he in
their home on Christmas of that year? (no forced entry if I recall)
and if he wasn't there invited, how did he know about that room
in the basement anyhow? I guess that will all be coming out
eventually.
Hi katharina,
I'm listening to the commentary on this case right now, and getting conflicting reports about the story that Karr was in the Ramsay house that year.
I'm hearing that they'll be a press conference later today, maybe that will clear some of this up.
I do hope they have the correct person. It would be so horrible if they don't.
Just now someone reported that Patsy's sister was quoted as saying that they have a DNA match. Whew, let's hope so!
palefrost
08-17-2006, 11:36 AM
This story makes me a little sick inside. If it turns out to be true the media has vilified this poor family for ten years!!! I was suspicious of them as well after reading how the ransom note was written and how the mother supposedly acted. They reported it as a cover-up yet they couldn't match any DNA evidence which was downplayed in the media.
Its no wonder patsy died of cancer. How much fight did she have left in her? Its such a tragedy and i feel horrible for being lead around by the media speculation on this poor family.
LightHeart
08-17-2006, 01:25 PM
Hi katharina,
I'm listening to the commentary on this case right now, and getting conflicting reports about the story that Karr was in the Ramsay house that year.
I'm hearing that they'll be a press conference later today, maybe that will clear some of this up.
I do hope they have the correct person. It would be so horrible if they don't.
Just now someone reported that Patsy's sister was quoted as saying that they have a DNA match. Whew, let's hope so!
After hearing that this guy has done extensive investigative work on the Ramsey murder and the Polly Klass murder I now want to say HMMM, does this guy just want the notoriety. It will be intersting to see if his DNA is a match.
LightHeart
08-17-2006, 03:37 PM
I wonder how the ransom note plays into this, how would Karr know how much Johns Christmas bonus was? Why is Karr's wife saying he was with her in Alabama the night JonBenet was killed?
And if he had been sending letters to Patsy detailing the murder wouldn't his DNA show up somewhere on the envelope or fingerprints on the letter?
And why when John and Patsy give the LE the name of Karr years ago, why wasn't he questioned?
NicoMoon
08-17-2006, 03:40 PM
It will be intersting to see if his DNA is a match.
Yes, this is definitely a "hmmmmm" kind of situation. Evidently Karr was communicating with a journalism professor in Boulder, one Michael Tracey. Tracey has produced several documentaries on the Ramsay case.
The reports are that Karr began providing information to Tracey and eventually confessed. I assume that the police investigators reviewed this correspondence to satisfy themselves that this isn't a case of Tracey leading a nutter with information and incentives to confess.
I wish I was feeling better about this suspect. It strikes me that he could just as easily have been fantasizing so much about this crime and is so sick that they placed themselves as the murderer. This will be pins and needles situation for sure.
It will be great to find out if they have DNA evidence, can place Karr in Boulder at the time of the murder, can match his handwriting with that on the ransom note, or anything substantial. If so, I'm sure we'll all feel a lot better.
NicoMoon
08-17-2006, 04:25 PM
Ok, so the plot thickens even more.
Michael Tracey, it turns out, has long been an advocate for the Ramsay's innocence. This raises a few eyebrows, considering that Karr was ultimately arrested on the basis of information Tracey's provided.
Couple this with the so far unsubstantiated rumors that Karr has included in his "confession" a statement that he picked JonBenet up from school on the day of the murder and took her to the basement. She was killed on Christmas day, there was no school, and she was with her parents all day.
It's also being said that there is no DNA evidence, no handwriting analysis, and that the arrest was made sooner than would have been the preference of the Boulder DA's office. Karr has also not been charged yet. His ex-wife and brother both state that he was with them at the time of the murder.
When asked if this arrest would now exonerate John Ramsay, Boulder DA Mary Lacey replied that John Ramsay is presumed innocent, just as is John Mark Karr.
All things considered, I think it's far too soon for us to feel confident that this case has been resolved.
BTW, if anyone is interested, Court TV will be airing a documentary about JonBenet at 6PM today.
LightHeart
08-17-2006, 04:40 PM
I started having my doubts this morning while watching CTV, I just haven't been able to figure out what kind of sicko this guy is.
Why confess if he didn't do it?, and If I remember correctly didn't Pasty check on JonBenet before she went to bed, found that JB had wet the bed and changed the sheets? That would place JB alive when Patsy went to bed. Did this guy hide in the house till he thought it was safe to grab her.
Also it was reported this morning that a bowl of pineapple was on the kitchen table along with an empty tea cup. Were those items checked for fingerprints?
I hate playing armchair detective, but I want answers before this whole thing is blown out of proportion any more than it has been.
Too many things are not adding up, the more Karr speaks the less I believe him.
LightHeart
08-17-2006, 04:41 PM
Resume believed to be Karr's
http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_4195421
LightHeart
08-17-2006, 04:45 PM
Karr chloroformed JonBenet, he says
AN American schoolteacher accused of murdering six-year-old beauty queen JonBenet Ramsey in the US in 1996 has told police in Thailand that the girl died accidentally from an overdose of chloroform he administered before raping her.
Link http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,20169106-1702,00.html
LightHeart
08-17-2006, 05:15 PM
JonBenet Suspect's Polly Klaas Obsession
Karr had girl's death certificate, letter from her killer in home
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/0817062karr1.html
How sick is this!!!!
NicoMoon
08-17-2006, 06:36 PM
You're as fascinated by this case as I am, LH!
I have some answers for your questions I think, but I'm going to have a quick swim!! Not too many days left to enjoy the water and sun. I'll catch you when I get back! Lord knows how much more information will have come out by then!
LightHeart
08-17-2006, 07:10 PM
You're as fascinated by this case as I am, LH!
I have some answers for your questions I think, but I'm going to have a quick swim!! Not too many days left to enjoy the water and sun. I'll catch you when I get back! Lord knows how much more information will have come out by then!
LOL, I know Nico, did I tell you growing up all I wanted to major in was criminal justice, alas it was not to be.
WTH, does he mean he picked her up at school? she was at a party and her father carried her into the house that night because she was sleeping.
I have a feeling an unspeakable joke has been played on the people that wanted, needed closure in this case.
His brother claims he was obsessed with this case because he wanted to write a book on child killers.
OneofaKind
08-17-2006, 07:33 PM
I just think it's sad that the parents have been held guilty for this for so long.
LightHeart
08-18-2006, 08:21 AM
I just think it's sad that the parents have been held guilty for this for so long.
And they will still be held guilty by some. Seems as of today that Karr is nothing but a crack pot!
LightHeart
08-18-2006, 09:33 AM
WTH
http://www.rockymountainnews.com/dr...4926302,00.html
"JonBenet, my love, my life. I love you and shall forever love you. I pray that you can hear my voice calling out to you from my darkness - this darkness that now separates us,...."I will tell you that I can understand people like Michael Jackson and feel sympathy when he suffers as he has," Karr wrote. He added that he, himself, "is trapped in a world that does not understand."
LightHeart
08-18-2006, 09:37 AM
Ok, I'm done my kids have told me I am consumed, thats sad! I will not post on this subject or look anything more up on it, Oh sh@t I feel dizzy already!!
LightHeart
08-18-2006, 09:58 AM
http://blabbieville.tripod.com/ransompage1.gif
Ok I lied, I need treatment!!
NicoMoon
08-18-2006, 12:20 PM
I dunno, LightHeart, I guess we all need something to engage our minds!
Someone pointed out yesterday that 2,000 other children were murdered the same year as JonBenet, and mourned the fact that no one found much interest in any of those cases.
I have a different feeling about the situation. While I agree that JonBenet's murder is so interesting largely due to the wealth and glamour factors, it's still of interest to us for the same reasons we care about any child who is neglected, abused, or murdered.
We can't take the time to investigate and stay up to speed on every child's murder, but I do believe that each one that makes the headlines serves to increase awareness on many levels, and knowledge is power.
Besides all that, this case is definitely a true mystery, and captivating for that reason alone. There are so many theories, differing opinions, possibilities, so may players, so much time elapsed, on and on.....
I honestly don't know how anyone could not be at least a little bit interested in the case. This medial frenzy will all blow over soon enough. Either we'll be convinced that the correct suspect has been apprehended and things will chill out until the trial, or we'll all go back to feeling frustrated and confused about the case until something else breaks and the frenzy will continue.
I suspect that this case will make history, the same as the Lindberg kidnapping has.
Anyway, I hope your kids realize that you're hardly alone in being extremely interested in this case.
LightHeart
08-18-2006, 12:23 PM
Your last post Nico made me want to meet you more, I think we could share some things!:pals:
LightHeart
08-18-2006, 01:20 PM
Source: Karr knew murder scene secrets
http://www.cnn.com/2006/LAW/08/18/karr.questions/index.html
I don't know what to think anymore!
LightHeart
08-18-2006, 01:23 PM
Qoute from Nico, ]Someone pointed out yesterday that 2,000 other children were murdered the same year as JonBenet, and mourned the fact that no one found much interest in any of those case.
I THINK THIS NEEDS REPEATING!
LightHeart
08-18-2006, 02:25 PM
BOULDER, Colo. - Authorities asked Patsy Ramsey in late May a month before she died of cancer whether she would be willing to meet with the man who claims he killed her 6-year-old daughter, the Ramsey family's attorney said Friday.
Link http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060818/ap_on_re_us/jonbenet_ramsey_colorado
LightHeart
08-18-2006, 02:31 PM
This is interesting! Ex-wife says she was intimidated into marrying at 14
http://www.ajc.com/news/content/metro/stories/0817metshotts.html
LightHeart
08-18-2006, 03:52 PM
great site full of info http://www.kron.com/Global/category.asp?C=8554&nav=menu130_1
OneofaKind
08-18-2006, 05:22 PM
Well from what is being said now he might actually be an attention seeker who didn't actual commit the crime.
NicoMoon
08-19-2006, 08:49 AM
Your last post Nico made me want to meet you more, I think we could share some things!:pals:
I'm sure we could! Including some amazing meals! YUMMM!! :dance: :dance: :wave2: :dance: :wave2: :dance: :wave2:
LightHeart
08-20-2006, 07:12 AM
Now this is creepy
As Karr was about to leave Thailand, a Bangkok clinic that specializes in transgender hormone treatments and surgery confirmed that the suspect had been a patient. Karr's treatment at Pratunam Poly Clinic was first reported by the New York Daily News.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/08/19/AR2006081900776.html
LightHeart
08-20-2006, 07:32 AM
At one point, Tracey wrote to Karr, "I'm also curious as to why you feel that talking to me is dangerous and that you have shared too much."
Karr wrote back: "I was the subject of at lease (sic) a four-state federal investigation for child murder and child molestation. These people were not finished with me when I left the U.S. I cannot return. Since you have never been through something like this in your own life, you cannot know the paranoia it causes. You mentioned you have access to my photograph after talking to you for at least two years. I have reason to be concerned. Consider, if you will, post-traumatic stress."
At another point, Tracey wrote, "You told me once that your mother tended to raise you as a girl. This must have had a powerful effect on your developing sexuality - confusion maybe?"
Karr responded: "Michael, I will not discuss my sexuality as if it is a psychological disorder from the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders. In my case, I disagree with that totally, and if this is to be the way we progress in discussing it, I might as well stop while I am ahead.
http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/local/article/0,1299,DRMN_15_4926302,00.html
LightHeart
08-20-2006, 07:36 AM
AN Australian teacher living in Bangkok has told how he spent an unsettling afternoon with John Karr prior to his arrest for the murder of JonBenet Ramsey.
http://www.news.com.au/sundaytelegraph/story/0,,20172807-5001021,00.html
vervilledeb1
08-20-2006, 11:09 AM
Did anyone watch the special they had on Dateline last night? I had it on and of course got relaxed on the bed and boom woke up after it was done! And no, I didn't tape it. :eek:
LightHeart
08-20-2006, 12:47 PM
Fixation spurs JonBenet expertise
Hickory homemaker sought out for opinions
http://www.charlotte.com/mld/charlotte/15313113.htm
Jameson befriended JonBenet's family. Jameson got details no one else had. Jameson sold some of them for $40,000 to the National Enquirer.
This is truly one amazing story this woman has to tell.
vervilledeb1
08-20-2006, 10:10 PM
Okay, this is pretty sad!
ABOARD THAI AIRWAYS TO LOS ANGELES - John Mark Karr, the suspect in the death of 6-year-old JonBenet Ramsey, sipped champagne and ate fried king prawns in business class Sunday after being put aboard a flight to Los Angeles to face charges in the United States.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060820/ap_on_re_us/jonbenet_ramsey
NicoMoon
08-21-2006, 12:31 PM
This is truly one amazing story this woman has to tell.
It really is! The comments section of the article is a classic too. Susan must have a tough hide! :disbelief I wonder if her critics realize how much money reporters and the media make on covering a case like this. But this woman gets paid for some of her efforts and it's a crime? Good for her all around. She found something interesting and stimulating to do with her time, and it's benefitted her in a small way, and possibly the investigation as well. I say "Go Susan"!
Thanks for keeping us updated, LH. You're staying ahead of me!
LightHeart
08-21-2006, 12:57 PM
Just heard on CTV that CA. has waived the bench warrent that they had on Karr, paving the way for him to be sent to CO.
Now the question I have is, who is paying for all this? And if this guy turns out to be nothing more than an attention seeking screwball, what does CO do with him then?
I had read somewhere that the "experts" are saying his handwriting matches, hmmm didn't they say the something about Patsys?
LightHeart
08-22-2006, 12:12 AM
Karr's email address is date of JonBenet death
http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/local/article/0,1299,DRMN_15_4933325,00.html
This guy has me on a roller coaster, one minute I think he is just an obsessed looney, The next I think he is a killer.
What bothers me most is the fact that no one can place him in Boulder the night of the murder, if Karr did do it, how did he know to ask for the exact amount of Johns Christmas bonus as the ransom. And what has bothered me for years is who fed this little girl the pineapple and why.
The family had an open house days before, I wonder if the people that attended where questioned.
I heard on CC or NG, that a man was questioned (sorry can't remember his name) and was about to be named a suspect, the next day this man committed suicide.
LightHeart
08-22-2006, 10:39 AM
Karr's Mother Tried to Kill Him, Family Friend Says
ATLANTA, Aug. 21, 2006 - The mother of the suspect in JonBenet Ramsey's murder tried to kill him when he was only a baby, a family friend told ABC News.
John Karr's mother, Patricia Elaine Adcock "made a big round donut [of kindling] and put him in the middle of it," said George McCrary, 76, who said he has known Karr's father, Wexford Karr, for 40 years.
"She just boxed the little baby in and tried to light it," McCrary said. John's older brother Michael "came running in just before she got the flame to the flammable material," McCrary added.
http://abcnews.go.com/US/print?id=2339385
LightHeart
08-22-2006, 11:08 AM
Is Patsy talking about Karr in this e-mail?
http://jonbenet_ramsey.tripod.com/09-29-1999-03-23-44-FriendToGsquaredStatement.txt
In great depth, the writer of the letter described
> a bizarre sexually
> >deviant practice he said he had researched for
> several years, among other
> >things, including pedophilia. He described
> individuals who torture their
> >victims to near death through various methods; one
> known as erotic
> >asphyxiation. He believes that JonBenets killer
> was a cross between a
> >pedophile and a person who is sexually aroused by
> bringing his victim to
> >the point of death, or past it. He made mention
> that the method the killer
> >used, fit perfectly with the methods used in erotic
> asphyxiation and other
> >forms of deviant sexual torture.
LightHeart
08-23-2006, 10:23 AM
This really creeps me out. Exclusive: Secret Tapes Of John Mark Karr?
"I can see through the eyes of the person who stopped the life of [JonBenet] ... as easily as ... if I did it myself,"
http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/story?section=nation_world&id=4485313
NicoMoon
08-24-2006, 11:54 AM
Karr's Mother Tried to Kill Him, Family Friend Says
What a bizarre interview! The guy goes on to tell the story of a spoiled, indulged, out of control human being, and ends by saying that he "lived from tragedy to tragedy".
If it's true that his mother tried to kill him, that's a terrible thing, and likely has something to do with his current mental condition. But clearly, so does his father who doesn't sound like much of an icon himself. I'm trying to figure out what or who this guy is trying to justify and why. These aren't nice or charming people we're hearing about from him.
I do find it interesting that we've now heard some of Karr's own words in which he is either fantasizing or remembering the murder. Several times he makes comments to the effect that he now has JonBenet and her mother can't do anything about it. It's as though he has a thing about causing JonBenet's mother as much pain as possible, and gets off on rubbing it in.
This is a disgustingly sick and disturbing individual no matter what the truth about the murders. I wish we'd never heard of the creep to be honest. I think a part of his pathology is that he likes to cause people discomfort, and he's certainly having a field day at the moment. I'm sure this guy will go down in history as an icon to disgustingness.
Oh, and worse yet, I'm also sure that he already has a Fan Club of fervent admirers, supporters, and wanna-be lovers. I guarantee it, in fact. :shin:
NicoMoon
08-24-2006, 12:17 PM
Is Patsy talking about Karr in this e-mail?
http://jonbenet_ramsey.tripod.com/09-29-1999-03-23-44-FriendToGsquaredStatement.txt
What a sad read. It's heartbreaking to get a peek into the emotional and mental torment this woman suffered.
I would actually be gratified to believe that this mail was from Karr, but sadly, it seems that this murder was quite understandable and recognizable to a number of mental cases with similar psycho-sexual dsyfunctions. In other words, fantasizing about raping, torturing, and killing little children isn't completely odd in some circles.
Heaven help us all!
I've heard mention of pedophile websites where the freaks gather to fantasize about JonBenet's murder. Some speculate that this is where Karr got his information that may have fed his own delusions and fantasies.
So, who knows if this person Patsy refers to was Karr or another of God knows how many other aberrations of humanity are out there?
LightHeart, the more information that comes to light about this case, the more I believe that it is important that it be exposed and resolved once and for all. It is possible that the ultimate resolution of this case will be that law enforcement has not done its job and in fact failed society in the most horrific manner. Frustrating and unacceptable as that conclusion might end up to be, it's still a Truth if it turns out to be so.
Regardless of how it all ends, I think it's a good and healthy thing that so many of us want to know the facts and to get to the bottom of this amazingly disturbing murder and botched investigation.
So, I hope you aren 't still feeling a bit weird about your obsession. I think it's normal and worthwhile, actually. We can't want to ever just walk away from something this horrible and frightening out of boredom or over-exposure, can we? Surely the awarenesses we receive by following this case will serve to protect other children and potential victims of a failed criminal justice system?
I have to believe that something good and worthwhile will come of all of this, it's really freaking me out!
LightHeart
08-24-2006, 02:13 PM
NIco, to tell the truth I am not sure what to believe anymore. I am inclined to believe that he didn't do it but in his twisted mind he believes he did. He has been quoted as saying he was in the house 5 hours prior to them coming home from a party, he has said that he attended their party on Dec,23rd along with his brother who supposedly worked for the Ramseys. As of now the brother is not talking.
The tapes that I have heard where he is talking to Wendy Hutchens, to me are very telling. IMO, it shows me a very disturbed person, who had a deep seeded lust for JonBenet. It shows me a person that doesn't trust adults and relates to children better. I don't think this guy has been living in reality for most of his life. I also have to wonder if the guy that killed Polly Klaas wasn't caught would Karr have confessed to that one too.
The part of me that needs to Anaylize everything wants to get into his head and try and figure him out.
LightHeart
08-24-2006, 02:22 PM
JonBenet Flimsy
As the case against John Mark Karr disintegrates, attention turns to CU prof Michael Tracey, who's fingered false suspects in the past.
http://www.newtimesbpb.com/Issues/2006-08-17/news/jonbenet.html
Would love to hear what others opinion is of Tracey.
LightHeart
08-24-2006, 04:43 PM
Inside the Mind of John Karr
Aug. 24, 2006 Dr. Michael Welner, a forensic psychiatrist, has been following the latest developments in the JonBenet Ramsey murder case and offers an analysis of suspect John Mark Karr and the statements he has made since his Aug. 16 arrest in Thailand.
http://abcnews.go.com/US/LegalCenter/story?id=2351162&page=1
NicoMoon
08-25-2006, 11:02 AM
JonBenet Flimsy
As the case against John Mark Karr disintegrates, attention turns to CU prof Michael Tracey, who's fingered false suspects in the past.
http://www.newtimesbpb.com/Issues/2006-08-17/news/jonbenet.html
Would love to hear what others opinion is of Tracey.
Thanks for bringing him into the discussion, LH! I've found the guy to be very creepy from the start. Shortly after the news of Karr's arrest in Thailand hit, Tracy was out with the lights and cameras lecturing everyone about this case not being a circus or something. Yet here we have the guy who's central to the circus acting all high and mighty about it, and coming across as Charles In Charge of Ethics here.
Sorry, but I can't stand hypocrites, and besides, he still comes across as creepy, so I'm not surprised at all by the content of the cited article!
LightHeart
08-25-2006, 11:13 AM
Thanks for bringing him into the discussion, LH! I've found the guy to be very creepy from the start. Shortly after the news of Karr's arrest in Thailand hit, Tracy was out with the lights and cameras lecturing everyone about this case not being a circus or something. Yet here we have the guy who's central to the circus acting all high and mighty about it, and coming across as Charles In Charge of Ethics here.
Sorry, but I can't stand hypocrites, and besides, he still comes across as creepy, so I'm not surprised at all by the content of the cited article!
OMG right, talk about a guy who is trying to make money off of this. This guy is so warped.
Fluffernutter
11-08-2006, 09:38 AM
The guy should be locked up where he can do no harm. He is delusional.
Giving false information to the police regarding a criminal investigation is a crime. If he did that he should be prosecuted.
He should have a mental health hearing to determine if he is a danger to others and if he is he should be hospitalized.
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